Advice on pursing legal careers in the recession May 14, 2009
Posted by helencurry in law.Tags: careers, law, law firms, legal, recession, solicitor
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It is undeniable that legal recruitment has been hit by the recession. Competition is higher than ever, but if you have a genuine interest in a legal career and the work experience to back that up, you should not be put off. Graduates are generally making more applications this year, and changing their career plans, but they won’t necessarily have the best quality application for a law firm. The situation is tougher but not impossible.
Here is some advice we have picked up to improve your chances at a training contract:
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Firms are avoiding students who were intending to be investment bankers, but switched to law when they thought it looked a better bet since the recession. If you have a couple of banking internships on your CV, be prepared for questions about this. Make sure you have evidence of your interest in law, and a good reason (not purely financial!) for your change of heart.
Got a 2:2 or low UCAS points? Think carefully about your decision. It has always been difficult to secure a training contract with low grades, and now competition is so high you may have to spend a couple of years getting work experience, working as a paralegal, and persevering with applications. Many in your position have to self-fund their studies, and are still less likely to be employed after graduation. Are you strong enough to cope with the debt and the risk?
Consider regional offices or smaller firms. Many students dismiss these without even researching the firms, which means there can be less competition. The alternatives do have their merits. If you are really committed to law, make your training contract applications more diverse.
Law vs non-law graduate? This article from TimesOnline discusses whether firms prefer law or non-law graduates, and whether the recession has changed this. The outcome was that different firms have different preferences, and the recession hasn’t stopped firms from recruiting non-law graduates. When making applications, try to make sure you are targeting ones that favour your academic background.
Self-funding your studies. Be aware that more LPC students are leaving university without the offer of a training contract. The situation is worse for BVC graduates. You will accumulate a lot of debt without the guarantee of work. Especially bear in mind that law firms are currently deferring people they have accepted on training contracts. When you are to finish LPC, the law firms will be taking in these people, and probably recruiting fewer new applicants.
As ever…
- Get work experience to make sure this is the right choice for you.
- Get your application checked at your careers service.
- Do a practice interview at your careers service.
- Think twice before self-funding further study.
- Research a range of firms and specialisms to target your application successfully.
Choosing a legal career: job interviews – say as little as possible?? March 19, 2009
Posted by helencurry in law.Tags: advice, interview, Interviews, job interviews, law, legal, solicitor, tips
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Continuing the legal theme this week, I thought I’d discuss an interview tip given in a new book we have acquired. In “The Legal Job Interview”, Clifford Ennico gives valuable advice on every stage of the interview process from initial body language to negotiating salary, and the perspective on legal culture makes it
particularly useful over general interview books. However his top tip, his “key rule”, stood out to me as somewhat controversial and needing a little more examination.
SAY AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE
He calls this the 20/80 rule. In any successful interview he reckons he will do 20 percent of the talking, and the interviewer does 80 percent. Why?
- the less you say, the less likely you are to say anything risky, anything that contradicts their beliefs. You should be like a politician, even if you all agree on everything but one point, that one negative is what will stick in their minds. They are probably interviewing a lot of candidates for each position, so they might only remember a couple of key things about each candidate.
- lawyers like to play things safe. They want to pick the safe candidate who is keen to do things their way. If you assert your own opinion too strongly you might signal to them that you are not a team player, that you are more interested in doing things your way.
- they want someone calm and collected who will reassure clients with clear, concise answers. You need to be the lawyer they are looking for.
Of course, the key to success with this approach is asking the right questions.
Rather than demonstrating the qualities they are looking for in your answers, instead you demonstrate them in your questions:
- show intelligence and insight in your questions. If one of their specialisms is in an area that is economically doing particularly well or badly, ask how that affects the future of that area – which specialisms are growth areas?
- demonstrate your qualities as a good listener who values the opinions of others.
- demonstrate the skill of active listening, skilfully asking further questions to get beneath the surface and extract more information.
- show them your enthusiasm and ambition – ask what they think is key to being successful in that position (you will also learn if the culture values working hard and long hours, or is more about politics – getting on well with the right people)
- flatter the interviewer by showing interest in what they do and being keen to learn from them and soak up their views.
It is an interesting approach – it sounds a little too evasive at first, until you realise the importance of the questions you are asking. While I wouldn’t worry trying to achieve the magical 20/80 ratio, the main point to take away is how important it is to ask good questions. Some of the qualities listed above are difficult to demonstrate in any other way, it is a key way of showing your interest in the firm, and they will at least expect one question from you at the end to round off the interview. It is worthwhile preparing a few, so even if they answer some prior to the interview you still have something to ask.
No matter how detailed the recruitment brochure and website has been, no matter how clearly the presentations have explained everything about the firm, it is essential ask them questions!
Law training contracts – firms with closing date 31st January 09 January 23, 2009
Posted by helencurry in training contract.Tags: law, solicitor, training contract, law firms
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Here I have collected together links to the relevant careers pages of law firms who are advertising training contract schemes with a closing date of 31st of January, just to help make sure you don’t miss any deadlines. Remember it always helps to get in early, as employers may read them as they come in and pick out outstanding candidates before the date.
- Abrahams Dresden Solicitors - CV + covering letter
- Blacks - CV + covering letter
- Bristows - application form
- BTMK Solicitors - application form
- Clarke Kiernan
- Douglas-Jones Mercer - application form
- FBC Manby Bowdler - CV + covering letter
- Gough-Thomas & Scott
- GSC Solicitors - CV + handwritten covering letter
- Hamilton Pratt
- Harrisons Solicitors
- Lanyon Bowdler - CV + covering letter
- Matthew Arnold & Baldwin
- Punch Robson
Dates have been drawn from LawCareers.net website and The Law Society Training Contract & Pupillage Handbook 2009, and verified on the company website. You can pick up a free copy of The Law Society Training Contract & Pupillage Handbook 2009 at your university careers service.
Please note: This list is not guaranteed to be comprehensive. Other firms who have adjusted their closing dates to the 31st of January 09, or who do not appear in these guides, may not be included, so do check further solicitors you may be interested in.











