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Advice on pursing legal careers in the recession May 14, 2009

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It is undeniable that legal recruitment has been hit by the recession. Competition is higher than ever, but if you have a genuine interest in a legal career and the work experience to back that up, you should not be put off. Graduates are generally making more applications this year, and changing their career plans, but they won’t necessarily have the best quality application for a law firm. The situation  is tougher but not impossible.

Here is some advice we have picked up to improve your chances at a training contract:

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Firms are avoiding students who were intending to be investment bankers, but switched to law when they thought it looked a better bet since the recession. If you have a couple of banking internships on your CV, be prepared for questions about this. Make sure you have evidence of your interest in law, and a good reason (not purely financial!) for your change of heart.

Got a 2:2 or low UCAS points? Think carefully about your decision. It has always been difficult to secure a training contract with low grades, and now competition is so high you may have to spend a couple of years getting work experience, working as a paralegal, and persevering with applications. Many in your position have to self-fund their studies, and are still less likely to be employed after graduation. Are you strong enough to cope with the debt and the risk?

Consider regional offices or smaller firms. Many students dismiss these without even researching the firms, which means there can be less competition. The alternatives do have their merits. If you are really committed to law, make your training contract applications more diverse.

Law vs non-law graduate? This article from TimesOnline discusses whether firms prefer law or non-law graduates, and whether the recession has changed this. The outcome was that different firms have different preferences, and the recession hasn’t stopped firms from recruiting non-law graduates. When making applications, try to make sure you are targeting ones that favour your academic background.

Self-funding your studies. Be aware that more LPC students are leaving university without the offer of a training contract. The situation is worse for BVC graduates. You will accumulate a lot of debt without the guarantee of work. Especially bear in mind that law firms are currently deferring people they have accepted on training contracts. When you are to finish LPC, the law firms will be taking in these people, and probably recruiting fewer new applicants.

As ever…

  • Get work experience to make sure this is the right choice for you.
  • Get your application checked at your careers service.
  • Do a practice interview at your careers service.
  • Think twice before self-funding further study.
  • Research a range of firms and specialisms to target your application successfully.


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Choosing a legal career: job interviews – say as little as possible?? March 19, 2009

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Continuing the legal theme this week, I thought I’d discuss an interview tip given in a new book we have acquired. In “The Legal Job Interview”, Clifford Ennico gives valuable advice on every stage of the interview process from initial body language to negotiating salary, and the perspective on legal culture makes it particularly useful over general interview books. However his top tip, his “key rule”, stood out to me as somewhat controversial and needing a little more examination.

SAY AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE

He calls this the 20/80 rule. In any successful interview he reckons he will do 20 percent of the talking, and the interviewer does 80 percent. Why?

  • the less you say, the less likely you are to say anything risky, anything that contradicts their beliefs. You should be like a politician, even if you all agree on everything but one point, that one negative is what will stick in their minds. They are probably interviewing a lot of candidates for each position, so they might only remember a couple of key things about each candidate.
  • lawyers like to play things safe. They want to pick the safe candidate who is keen to do things their way. If you assert your own opinion too strongly you might signal to them that you are not a team player, that you are more interested in doing things your way.
  • they want someone calm and collected who will reassure clients with clear, concise answers. You need to be the lawyer they are looking for.

Of course, the key to success with this approach is asking the right questions.

Rather than demonstrating the qualities they are looking for in your answers, instead you demonstrate them in your questions:

  • show intelligence and insight in your questions. If one of their specialisms is in an area that is economically doing particularly well or badly, ask how that affects the future of that area – which specialisms are growth areas?
  • demonstrate your qualities as a good listener who values the opinions of others.
  • demonstrate the skill of active listening, skilfully asking further questions to get beneath the surface and extract more information.
  • show them your enthusiasm and ambition – ask what they think is key to being successful in that position (you will also learn if the culture values working hard and long hours, or is more about politics – getting on well with the right people)
  • flatter the interviewer by showing interest in what they do and being keen to learn from them and soak up their views.

It is an interesting approach – it sounds a little too evasive at first, until you realise the importance of the questions you are asking. While I wouldn’t worry trying to achieve the magical 20/80 ratio, the main point to take away is how important it is to ask good questions. Some of the qualities listed above are difficult to demonstrate in any other way, it is a key way of showing your interest in the firm, and they will at least expect one question from you at the end to round off the interview. It is worthwhile preparing a few, so even if they answer some prior to the interview you still have something to ask.

No matter how detailed the recruitment brochure and website has been, no matter how clearly the presentations have explained everything about the firm, it is essential ask them questions!



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Choosing a legal career – 6 ways to get work experience March 17, 2009

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If you are considering a career in law, it is essential that you get work experience. You will need this both for applications to firms and chambers, and for your own benefit to make sure you are making the right choice (before you shell out for all that extra training…).

Today’s tips relate to work experience you can get prior to applying for vacation schemes and mini-pupillages.

6 top tips for getting work experience

  1. Use contacts in friends and family to get a week of work-shadowing.
  2. If you don’t have contacts (and many of us don’t), try to get paid or un-paid work as an administrator or receptionist in a police station, court, high-street solicitors’ firm, barristers’ chambers, or legal body such as the Legal Services Commission. Even if you are photocopying and getting coffee, you will have the opportunity to observe how people work, how they spend their time, how they handle clients, what legal resources they use and ask pertinent questions. Try visiting in person with your CV.
  3. Visit the courts – useful for both aspiring barristers and solicitors. Follow a case and you can talk about it in interview.
  4. Join your university Law Society for access to talks and debates.
  5. Check with your careers service to find out when legal firms are coming to talk on campus and have networking events. You might not feel confident at first, but if you keep on networking it does get easier! These conversational skills will help you sound professional and knowledgable when approaching firms in future.
  6. Voluntary work is available in legal, civil rights and social justice areas. Search for it using Directgov – select voluntary work, and search in your area for Legal Aid & Justice (you are more likely to find long term opportunities than one-off events). Opportunities include prison befriender, witness support and Citizen’s Advice Bureau work. See also Vinspired.com for opportunities tailored to 18-25 year olds, and try your university volunteering service or society.

Remember competition is very strong for legal careers:

Some top legal names calculate that they have 1000 applicants for 100 training contracts.

McAlpine, M. 2009. Law Uncovered. Trotman. p. 82.

And some say the recession is heightening this as well-qualified students who would have gone into finance, choose law instead as a ’safer’ route to high salaries.

What are you going to do to ensure you stand out?

For more information see:

McAlpine, M. 2009. Law Uncovered. Trotman.

AllAboutLaw.co.uk

LawCareers.net and Launchpad to Law 2009 (pdf)


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Choosing a legal career – Law Uncovered March 16, 2009

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If you are starting to explore the idea of a legal career, this book, Law Uncovered, will give you an excellent grounding. It takes you from the very basic ‘what is law?’ type questions, right the way through to funding further study and applying for training.

This 2nd edition was recently updated by SICS careers adviser Gill Sharp, who explains:

I have expanded the number of case studies to remind readers that there are all kinds of career patterns open to them.  These real life stories also illustrate proven solutions to common dilemmas such as finding work experience or dealing with disappointing exam grades.   There are numerous tips and nuggets of information scattered throughout the book: I wanted to make it a practical as well as a factual resource.

We have just got this book in at The Careers Group library, and Royal Holloway careers service also has a copy, so why not drop by and take a look.
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Law training contracts – firms with closing date 31st January 09 January 23, 2009

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Here I have collected together links to the relevant careers pages of law firms who are advertising training contract schemes with a closing date of 31st of January, just to help make sure you don’t miss any deadlines. Remember it always helps to get in early, as employers may read them as they come in and pick out outstanding candidates before the date.

Dates have been drawn from LawCareers.net website and The Law Society Training Contract & Pupillage Handbook 2009, and verified on the company website. You can pick up a free copy of The Law Society Training Contract & Pupillage Handbook 2009 at your university careers service.

Please note: This list is not guaranteed to be comprehensive. Other firms who have adjusted their closing dates to the 31st of January 09, or who do not appear in these guides, may not be included, so do check further solicitors you may be interested in.


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Law careers for non-law undergraduates January 19, 2009

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We have a new guide in called Launchpad to Law 2009: A career in law with your degree, by LawCareers.net in association with The Law Society.

It is written for students in non-law subject areas who are considering a career in law. The guide begins with an introduction to what lawyers do, timelines for applications and descriptions of courses. However the bulk of the guide is devoted to profiles of lawyers who graduated from a range of subjects, from archaeology to zoology. This will give you an idea of where you fit in, which skills from your course are useful in law and worth promoting in your application, as well as hopefully convincing you that non-law graduates are perfectly welcome in law.

And the really good news is that it is available online in pdf form here.

I would also definitely recommend having a good look around the http://www.lawcareers.net/ website as it is full of useful information including:

They also have a weekly newsletter LC.N Weekly for people seeking a career in the law, which keeps you up-to-date with legal news, analysis of firms and upcoming events.
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Law: getting a training contract, pupillage, vacation scheme November 19, 2008

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If you are interested in a career in law, it is a good time now to do some research and preparation. Vacation schemes for next summer tend to close around January/February, but the few winter schemes available are closing already. Similarly barristers who offer mini-pupillages in the summer are taking applications now, with closing dates around January/February.

Law firms will offer many of their training contracts/pupillages to students who completed vacation schemes with them, as they have already seen their work, so it is important to target employers which you genuinely would apply to for a training contract.

The Training Contract & Pupillage Handbook 2009Books like the Pupillages Handbook published by gti, and The Training Contract & Pupillage Handbook 2009 are a good place to start, explaining everything from application technique to interviews for both work placements and training contracts. Most importantly they contain an employers guide, giving an overview of lots of firms and their specialisms, so you can shortlist those that best match your interests.

The student guide to the UK's premier law firms 2008/9

You may then wish to cross-reference these with a book like The Lex 100 which gives an insider’s view of the work culture and experiences of trainees. See also http://www.lex100.com/.

And of course you must read the firm’s company website thoroughly. Make notes. Where does the company’s name come from? Have they merged with anyone? Who are their main competitors? Research is key to choosing the right firm for you, and convincing the firm that you know them well, and want them and them only!

For pupillages, an essential website to look for vacancies is the Online Pupillage Application System (OLPAS) http://www.pupillages.com/, which comprehensively lists all the pupillage vacancies available in the UK.

These books and websites provide a good starting point, but if you have any further questions or want help researching more specific areas like environmental law, leave us a comment and we will get back to you right away!


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